Below is a transcript of the key parts of the video:
Why are people resistant to looking at the hard evidence regarding 9/11?
Marti Hopper, Ph.D (Licensed Clinical Psychologist):
At this point, we have nine years of hard scientific evidence that disproves the government theory about what happened on September 11. Yet, people continue to be either oblivious to the fact that this information exists or completely resistant to looking at this information. So, the question becomes: Why?
Why is it that people have so much trouble hearing this information? From my work, I think we would be remiss not to look at the impact of trauma…
As we know, the horrors of what happened on 9/11 were televised all over the world. They were televised, in fact, live. We witnessed the deaths of almost 3,000 of our fellow Americans. We know that this had a very severe and traumatic impact on a majority of the population. I, myself, cried for weeks after September 11.
A friend of mine, who is a psychologist in practice here in Boulder, said that her case load increased tremendously after 9/11. People who she had not seen in ten years were coming back into her practice.
So, I think it’s safe to say that collectively, as a nation, because of what happened on September 11, we experienced trauma.
9/11 Truth Conflicts with Our Worldview, Causing Cognitive Dissonance
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
Why do people resist this information – the information that shows that the official story about 9/11 cannot be true? What I’ve learned is that, as humans, each of us has a world view. That worldview is usually formed, in great part, by the culture that we grow up in.
When we hear information that contradicts our worldview, social psychologists call the resulting insecurity cognitive dissonance. For example, with 9/11 we have one cognition, which is the official story of 9/11 – what our government told us, what our media repeated to us over and over – that 19 Muslims attacked us.
On the other hand, we have what scientists, researchers, architects, and engineers are now beginning to tell us, which is that there is evidence that shows that the official story cannot be true. So now, we’ve lost our sense of security. We are starting to feel vulnerable. Now we’re confused.
Our Psychological Defenses Kick In When Our Beliefs Are Challenged
Robert Hopper, Ph.D. (Licensed Clinical Psychologist):
9/11 truth challenges our most fundamental beliefs about our government and about our country. When your beliefs are challenged or when two beliefs are inconsistent, cognitive dissonance is created. 9/11 truth challenges the beliefs that our country protects and keeps us safe, and that America is the good guy….
When your beliefs are challenged, fear and anxiety are created. In response to that, our psychological defenses kick in and they protect us from these emotions. Denial, which is probably the most primitive psychological is the one most likely to kick in when our beliefs are challenged.
It’s Easier to Deny the Truth
Danielle Duperet, PhD:
America is a powerful nation. It has never been attacked. We were confident. We felt secure. And all of a sudden, that security collapsed. People started to be fearful with all of the rumors, with all of the news. People didn’t know what to think, which is a very, very uncomfortable state to be in. Eventually, our mind shuts off. Just like when a computer is overloaded, our minds get overloaded. We can’t handle it anymore and we shut down. It’s easier to deny it and move on with our lives.
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
What some will tend to do is deny the evidence that is coming our way and stick to the original story, the official story. We try to regain our equilibrium that way. Another thing that we can do is decide to look at the conflicting evidence and be sincere and open minded, and look at both sides of the issue. And, then make up our own mind about what reality is.
We Will Do Just About Anything to Defend our Mental and Emotional Homes
Dorthy Lorig, M.A., Counseling Psychologist:
If we can think of our worldview as sort of being our mental and emotional home, I think that all of us will do just about anything to defend our homes, to defend our families. I see that with people. I saw that with myself when my brother tried to talk to me about it: “Don’t mess with me. Don’t mess with my home. Don’t mess with my comfort with how things are.”
About a week later, I read a lengthy article by professor Griffin about why he believes the official account of 9/11 cannot be true. It was a very well researched article. I was in my office at the time. I sat there and felt my stomach churning. I thought that maybe I was going to be sick. And, I leaped out my chair and ran out the door and took a long walk around the block – around several blocks – and just broke down.
I understand now that my worldview about my government being in some way my protector, like a parent, had been dashed. It was like being cast out into the wilderness. I think that is the closest way to describe that feeling.
I sobbed and I sobbed. I felt that the ground had completely disappeared beneath my feet. And, I knew at some point during the walk that at some point I was going to have to become active educating other people about this. For me to retain any sense of integrity, I was going to have to take some action. I couldn’t just let something like this go.
9/11 Truth Challenges Our Fundamental Beliefs About the World
Robert Hopper, Ph.D. (Licensed Clinical Psychologist):
Many people respond to these truths in a very deep way. Some have a visceral reaction like that have been punched in the stomach. To begin to accept the responsibility that the government was involved is like opening Pandora’s Box. If you open the lid and peak in a little bit, it’s going to challenge some of your fundamental beliefs about the world.
Initial Reactions to Hearing Contradictory Evidence about 9/11
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
Following are some of those spontaneous initial reactions to hearing the contradictory evidence about 9/11:
Robert Hopper, Ph.D. (Licensed Clinical Psychologist):
I don’t want to know the truth or I will become too negative and psychologically go downhill.
I’m not sure that I want to know. If this is true then up will be down and down will be up. My life will never be the same.
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
Fran, I refuse to believe that that many Americans can be that treasonous. Someone would have talked.
Initial Reactions are Based on BELIEFS, NOT Scientific Facts
But these are BELIEFS. They are NOT scientific fact. But, these beliefs do KEEP US FROM LOOKING AT THE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
9/11 Truth Contradicts People’s Paradigm
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., professor/author:
You have empirical people who will simply say: look at the evidence and if it is convincing, I will change my mind.
Other people are paradigmatic people. They have a paradigm. They say, this is the way the world works and I am convinced that this is the way that the world works. 9/11 doesn’t fit into that paradigm. So, I don’t have to look at the evidence. It’s paradigmatic.
And then there is a third type of person that we often call wishful thinkers. I call it wishful and fearful thinking. So, they simply will not believe something that they fear to be the truth. And, I find that to be, maybe, the most powerful factor of people rejecting 9/11 truth and not even entertaining the evidence.
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
The Truth is Not Bearable
So, whenever we say “I refuse to believe”, we can be sure that the evidence that’s coming our way is not bearable and it is conflicting with our worldview much too much.
Robert Hopper, Ph.D. (Licensed Clinical Psychologist):
Denial protects people from this kind of anxiety.
A Common Emotion is Fear
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
As I thought about all of these responses, I realized that what is common to every one of them is emotion of fear. People are afraid of being ostracized, they are afraid of being alienated, they are afraid of being shunned. They are afraid of their lives being inconvenienced – they’ll have to change their lives. They are afraid of being confused. They are afraid of psychological deterioration. They are afraid of feeling helpless and vulnerable. And, they are afraid that they won’t be able to handle the feelings coming up.
When Presented with the Truth, Those in Denial Become Angry, Indignant, Offended, and Ridicule the Messenger
None of want to feel helpless and vulnerable. So, we want to defend ourselves. And, the way that we often do that is with anger. Then we become angry. And, when we become angry, then we become indignant. We become offended. We want to ridicule the messenger. We want to pathologize the messenger. And, we want to censor the messenger.
Raise Awareness with Gentle Dialogue and Gentle Questioning
Robert Hopper, Ph.D. (Licensed Clinical Psychologist)
So, how can we overcome this resistance in denial? The first thing is to meet people where they are at.
John Freedom, M.A., Personal Development Counselor:
One thing is that we need to raise people’s awareness about this – what I would call gentle dialogue and gentle questioning… It doesn’t work to challenge people’s beliefs or immediately tell them “I know the truth about 9/11.” A good way is to ask open ended questions that lead to open dialogue and discussion about it.
Danielle Duperet, PhD:
One of the ways to deal with the trauma is to find the answers. That’s why I think it is of such importance to have a comprehensive investigation.
Pride is Another Reason People Deny 9/11 Truth
Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist:
I believe that to become the type of country that we think we are, we have to face some of the things that are not as we think they are… Thinking that we are above such things – that it could happen in other countries, but it couldn’t happen here – that’s a lack of humility. That’s excessive pride. As, so not being able to see our dark side or our weaknesses is the most dangerous thing.
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D:
The observation that pride is one of the basic human flaws is absolutely correct. This is especially true for Americans because we for a long time looked at other nations and said, “They are in such bad shape. But, luckily we don’t have those problems. We don’t have leaders that would do those things that were done in the Soviet Union, or done in Germany, or done in Japan… This is a type of pride that Americans have.
A feature of American history that makes particularly liable to this pride is this notion of exceptionalism – that America is the exceptional nation. That began from the beginning as this country was formed.
People would say that there was so much evil in the European countries, so much cheating, so much lying, so much using the people for the ruler’s purposes. But not in America! We have leaders who are free from those sins. This has made 9/11 particularly difficult for Americans.
Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist:
Everyone can make mistakes. But, our ideals and our principles get us back on track.
John Freedom, M.A., Personal Development Counselor:
9/11 is One of the Defining Issues of Our Time
This is one of the defining issues of our time.
Questioning is Patriotic
Robert Griffin, Licensed Psychologist:
So, we need to understand that questioning is patriotic. Questioning is what we are supposed to do. That’s our duty.
The Real Perpetrators Must be Held Accountable
Frances Shure, M.A. (Licensed Professional Counselor):
When we come to the national level, when something like 9/11 happens, we need to be sure that we have a real investigation into who the perpetrators are. And, then we need to make sure that those people are held legally accountable. It’s part of the healing process on an individual level and the collective level.
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