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Cause of Damage to the Pentagon:
Witness Testimony
Frank
Legge, Feb 2012
One might ask why it should be necessary
to go into detail about statements by particular individuals when we all
occasionally make mistakes in our assertions. The answer is that most of us
correct our mistakes but some people, perhaps enjoying the limelight that
disturbing ideas attract, do not. They persist in presenting incorrect
assertions as part of their general position on 9/11 and these assertions cause
damaging disputation.
In
the film “Hypothesis” Prof. Steven Jones says, in reference to those who assert
there were no planes at the World Trade Center: “With these crazy ideas they
dilute the effort to get at the truth about 9/11.” Of course Barbara Honegger
is not asserting that there were no planes at the WTC but she insists that
there is proof in the evidence that no large plane hit the Pentagon and that
the damage was done by explosives. This is an extraordinary assertion as it
contradicts abundant eyewitness testimony. Any extraordinary assertion requires
extraordinary proof to support it. In the case of the Pentagon
attack there is
no such proof. Making the no-plane assertion to the public does more harm than
good to the 9/11 cause and should be responded to publicly so that contrary
views can be expressed for comparison and discussion.
The
official account of the attack on the Pentagon on 11 Sept 2001 states that it
was struck by a hijacked Boeing 757 at 9:37:45 (NTSB) or 9:37:46 (9/11
Commission). Honegger asserts that the damage to the Pentagon was caused by an
explosion at about 9:32, about 6 minutes before the officially reported impact.
She provides a number of superficially credible references for this time, some
based on stopped clocks.[1]
The
existence of two supported times for the Pentagon attack allows speculation
that there may have been two incidents, an explosion and a plane impact, and
that the impacting object could therefore have been something smaller than a
Boeing 757, like an A3 Sky Warrior or a missile.
Many
eyewitnesses contradict the speculation that the impact was caused by a smaller
object. They have been recorded stating that a large commercial jet liner
struck the Pentagon. Supporting the eyewitnesses is the trail of damage through
the light poles, wide enough, but not too wide, for a Boeing 757. The hole in
the wall was ample for the heavy parts of such a plane and a number of parts in
the debris were identified as from a 757.[2] The light parts of the plane, which would not
be expected to penetrate the heavy wall, have marked the face of the Pentagon
in a shape which matches the shape and wingspan of a 757. Such fine detail
would be extremely hard to achieve using explosives. The flight data recorder
(FDR) from AA77 was reportedly found in the debris and we now have the new
decoding of its data file, which brings the plane right to the Pentagon, as
described in the official reports.[3] This file extends our knowledge of the track
of the plane as it shows the plane flying virtually straight at the heading
shown by the radar data from four separate facilities. This places the plane
south of the Navy Annex, south of the Citgo service station and in line with
the damage to the light poles. The last radar position report is south of the
Sheraton hotel and only about 6 seconds prior to impact. The FDR file data
reaches right to the Pentagon and shows the plane continuing to fly straight,
descending smoothly, pulling up safely and striking the Pentagon near the
ground, as in the official reports and in conformity with the vast majority of
eye witness reports.[4]
Beside
the eyewitnesses to the impact there were many additional witnesses who, while
not seeing the impact itself, reported seeing the plane approach the Pentagon
and then seeing and hearing an explosive event, with a large fireball and smoke
plume. There is no report of a plane flying over the roof of the Pentagon
despite the hundreds of potential witnesses with a good view.
It follows therefore that, if
explosives had been detonated prior to the arrival of the aircraft, there would
have been two explosive events.
A
search of eye witness testimony finds that many people were in a position to
have observed two explosions but none have reported anything which can be
interpreted as a destructive explosion followed a few minutes later by the
explosive plane impact (see Appendix below). There are some who report multiple
explosions but these are in the context of minor events following the plane
impact; presumably events like gas bottles exploding due to heat.
Honegger
is one of a number of authors who provide a great deal of useful information
about events and people which raises suspicion about the accuracy of the
official reports, but it is clear that there were not two explosive events at
the Pentagon, nor was the Pentagon struck by a smaller object than a Boeing
757. Whether the impact was accompanied by the use of explosives is not clear.
There is some evidence that it was, but there is a lack of corroboration, so it
is not compelling. There is no doubt that the massive keel of the plane and the
heavy cores of the engines, travelling at 556 miles per hour, according to the
FDR file, would have enough energy to penetrate the wall. With so many
witnesses watching the low level approach of the plane, and seeing its impact,
it can be concluded that the bulk of the plane entered the Pentagon. Many
witnesses use phrases like “the building swallowed the plane” to describe what
they saw. Photographs show a hole in the wall ample to allow the heavy parts of
the plane to enter the building.
One
possible explanation for the substantial time discrepancy is that the official
account of the time of impact is incorrect. As Honegger points out there were
several variations of the impact time initially reported, indicating faulty
data handling. The final official times are in reasonable accord with the FDR
file, being only about 6 seconds short. This suggests that the authorities
quickly decided to settle on the FDR file data to over-ride the confusion which
had arisen but did not know that the last data frames in the file, covering
four seconds, had not been decoded. There are, however, other sources of data
from which the time of impact can be calculated. As the plane was being
followed by several radar installations, confirmation is possible from their
recorded data.
It
has been alleged that the authorities may have manipulated the FDR and radar
data for some ulterior purpose. Luckily it is possible to verify the radar
data. John Farmer has examined this question in great detail. He points out
that the time of one event recorded by radar, namely the impact of UAL175 on
the South Tower, is known precisely from several videos. This can be used to
correct the timeline of the nearest radar source, which happened to be JFK.
Then by matching the JFK data with other radar stations which were
simultaneously monitoring other events, the timelines of all those stations can
be corrected. His final estimate of the impact time at the
Pentagon is within 3 seconds of the time estimated from the FDR file, 9:37:52.
There is thus no possibility that the impact could have occurred 6 minutes
earlier.
Summary and Conclusion
The
two speculations which arise from Barbara Honegger’s work are (1) that the
Pentagon may have been hit by something smaller than a Boeing 757 and (2) that
the damage, at the same moment or several minutes earlier, was caused only by
explosives.
There
is very strong witness testimony and physical evidence that the Pentagon was
hit by a large commercial plane, which rules out the first speculation, and
there are witnesses whose testimony rules out two separate substantial
explosive events (see appendix below). The possibility that explosives were
used at the moment of impact to enhance the impact damage is not ruled out.
See
also the page titled “Comments on a talk by Barbara Honegger“.
Appendix
Witnesses to a single explosive
event
In
this appendix is a list of 9 witnesses who were outside the Pentagon close to
the impact point, and present for an extended period before the impact, and
thus in a position to report an explosion or damage appearing in the wall of
the Pentagon prior to the plane impact. None of these witnesses does so. No
witness can be found who reported two large explosions. This rules out the
possibility that there were two explosive events related to the Pentagon
attack. Many of the original links to these testimonies no longer work. In
these cases I have provided a link to the extensive collection stored at
911research.wtc7.net.
1. Sean Boger, interview document, USA Center for
Military History. Boger’s vantage point, the Pentagon Heliport control tower,
had glass extending round the side of the tower, so he would have had an
unobstructed view of the impact point. He comments on normal activities and
mentions that he is looking out at the road and noting that traffic has
stopped, then says:
“I
just see…the nose and wing of an aircraft coming right at us and he didn’t
veer. And then you just heard the noise, and then he just smacked into the
building, and when it hit the building, I am watching the plane go all the way
into the building”. “So once the plane went into the building it exploded, and
once it exploded, I hit the floor and just covered up my head. It was like
glass shattering and ceiling tile was falling…”
2.
Alan Wallace and Mark Skipper. [These
witnesses were working normally, close enough to the plane impact point that
they were scorched by the heat, but did not mention a prior explosion.] The
meticulous Wallace moved the fire truck out of the way, parking it about 15
feet from the Pentagon. That’s when Wallace got a call from his chief at nearby
Fort Myer telling him of the attacks in New York and to be on alert. Minutes
later, Wallace and his buddy Mark Skipper looked up and saw the gleam of a
silver jetliner. But it was flying too low, maybe less than 25 feet off the ground.
And it was heading right at them. “I yelled to Mark, ‘Let’s go!'” He bolted to
the right, and a second later felt the searing heat of the blast behind him. He
hit the ground and rolled under a parked van as a fire engulfed his fire truck,
then blew through the firehouse. Wallace got back to his feet, saw Skipper had
escaped, then rushed to the scorched fire truck to see if it would run, but the
truck only belched fire. It wouldn’t move. So Wallace switched on the truck’s
radio. “Foam 61 to Fort Myer,” he said. “We have had a commercial carrier crash
into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side.
The crew is OK. The airplane was a 757
Boeing or a 320 Airbus.” Although he was still frantic and shaken,
Wallace’s report turned out to be painfully accurate.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
3.
Frank Probst. [This witness had just
walked past the point where the plane would hit. He did not mention a prior
explosion or damage to the wall.] A Pentagon renovation worker and retired Army
officer, he was inspecting newly installed telecommunications wiring inside the
five-story, 6.5-million-square-foot building. The tall, soft-spoken Probst had
a 10 a.m. meeting. About 9:25 a.m., he stopped by the renovation workers’
trailer just south of the Pentagon heliport. Someone had a television turned on
in the trailer’s break room that showed smoke pouring out of the twin towers in
New York. “The Pentagon would make a pretty good target,” someone in the break
room commented. The thought stuck with Probst as he picked up his notebook and
walked to the North Parking Lot to attend his meeting. Probst took a sidewalk
alongside Route 27, which runs near the Pentagon’s western face. Traffic was at
a standstill because of a road accident. Then, at about 9:35 a.m., he saw the
airliner in the cloudless September sky. American Airlines Flight 77 approached
from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill
overlooking the Pentagon. He has lights off, “wheels up, nose down,” Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be
accelerating directly toward him. He froze. “I knew I was dead,” he said later.
“The only thing I thought was, ‘Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and
I’m not going to see my two boys again.'” He dove to his right. He recalls the
engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
4. Jack Singleton. “Where the plane came in was really
at the construction entrance,” says Jack Singleton, president of Singleton
Electric Co. Inc., Gaithersburg MD, the Wedge One electrical subcontractor. “The plane’s left wing actually came in near
the ground and the right wing was tilted up in the air. That right wing
went directly over our trailer, so if that wing had not tilted up, it would
have hit the trailer. My foreman, Mickey Bell, had just walked out of the trailer
and was walking toward the construction entrance.”
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
5. Mickey Bell. The jet came in from the south and
banked left as it entered the building, narrowly missing the Singleton Electric
trailer and the on-site foreman, Mickey Bell. Bell had just left the trailer
when he heard a loud noise. The next thing he recalled was picking himself off
the floor, where he had been thrown by the blast. Bell, who had been less than
100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the
plane’s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had
been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away. http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
6. Mark Bright. Defense Protective Service officers
were the first on the scene of the terrorist attack. One, Mark Bright, actually
saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall
Entrance to the building. [Is there any way this officer would not have known
about an explosion prior to the impact?] “I saw the plane at the Navy Annex
area,” he said. “I knew it was going to strike the building because it was
very, very low — at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down.”
The plane would have been seconds from impact — the annex is only a few hundred
yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane “power-up” just before it
struck the Pentagon. “As soon as it struck the building I just called in an
attack, because I knew it couldn’t be accidental,” Bright said. He jumped into
his police cruiser and headed to the area.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
7. Omar Campo. “It was a passenger plane. I think
an American Airways plane”, Mr Campo said. “I was cutting the grass and it came
in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the
whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like
that here.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0%2C1300%2C550486%2C00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0%2C1300%2C550486%2C00.html
8. Michael DiPaula, 41, project coordinator Pentagon
Renovation Team – He left a meeting in the Pentagon just minutes before the
crash, looking for an electrician who didn’t show, in a construction trailer
less than 75 feet away. Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing
the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. ‘It sounded like a
missile,’ DiPaula recalls . . . Buried in debris and covered with airplane
fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing, but eventually crawled
from the flaming debris and the shroud of black smoke unscathed.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html
9. WilliamYeingst. Just prior to the impact there were
three firemen on the helipad at the Pentagon. The president was supposed to
land at the helipad two hours after the impact, and so they had just pulled the
foam truck out of the firehouse and were standing there when they looked up and
saw the plane coming over the Navy Annex
building. They turned and ran, and at the point of impact were partially
shielded by their fire truck from the flying debris of shrapnel and flames.
They were knocked to the ground by the concussion, were able to get up, go over
to the fire truck, and initially they were able to get it started to call for
help at Fort Myer. And then they had to put out parts of their uniform–their
bunker gear was actually on fire, so the first thing they had to do was put out
their own fire truck and their fire equipment and they tried to start the truck
and move it, but they discovered that it wouldn’t move. They got out and
looked, and the whole back of the fire
truck had melted.
Audio : http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/audio.asp?ID=6
Transcript : http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/transcript.asp?ID=6
Audio : http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/audio.asp?ID=6
Transcript : http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/transcript.asp?ID=6
[1] Honegger B., The Pentagon Attack Papers by Barbara Honegger, http://loveforlife.com.au/content/07/12/11/pentagon-attack-papers-barbara-honegger
[2] 9/11 Research, What the Physical Evidence Shows, http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html
[3] Legge F. and W. Stutt, Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path
Leading to Impact with the Pentagon, http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Calibration%20of%20altimeter_92.pdf
[4] 9/11 Research, Eyewitness reports, http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/jetliner.html
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