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Report: Worry over nuclear fuel hitting aquifer under Fukushima plant after melting through concrete — TV: Raging meltdown going on even as we speak… they still don’t have control of 3 melted cores (VIDEO) from ENENEWS

Report: Worry over nuclear fuel hitting aquifer under Fukushima plant after melting through concrete — TV: Raging meltdown going on even as we speak… they still don’t have control of 3 melted cores (VIDEO)

Published: September 13th, 2014 at 6:51 pm ET
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Nuclear Safety In The Age Of Chernobyl And Fukushima, website of Ulrich H. Kurzweg, Professor Emeritus in the Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering at the University of Florida, December 10, 2013 (emphasis added): The recent nuclear accident at Fukushima in Japan has focused the world’s attention on the safety of nuclear power… The worry at Fukushima at the moment is… some of the cores melting through their concrete supports to come in contact with the aquifer… The accidents at Chernobyl and Fukushima are indicating that we can expect such accidents to occur once every few decades or so and this will continue unless one comes up with safer reactor designs.
Professor Michio Kaku (Ph.D. in nuclear physics from UC Berkeley and protégé of Edward Teller the ‘father of the H-bomb’), Library of Congress Science Pavilion of the 2014 National Book Festival, CSPAN, August 30, 2014 (at 27:00 in): At Fukushima in Japan we have a raging nuclear meltdown, three of them — simultaneously — going on even as we speak. Even as we speak, they still have not yet gotten control of three melted cores.

See also: Nuclear Expert: We believe molten fuel already melted through floors of Fukushima reactor buildings, or is still in process of melting through (AUDIO)
And: Scientist: Fukushima nuclear fuel “still melting down… there’s melting happening in the cores” (VIDEO)
Watch Kaku’s presentation here
Published: September 13th, 2014 at 6:51 pm ET
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145 comments to Report: Worry over nuclear fuel hitting aquifer under Fukushima plant after melting through concrete — TV: Raging meltdown going on even as we speak… they still don’t have control of 3 melted cores (VIDEO)

  • dunkilo
    I heard him say it!!! In DC no less…..What the fudge?Im really starting not to like you guys ,our " elected officals" what a bunch of fools…


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  • In Russia, they knew the fuel was melting down into the basements, which were full of water, just like the ones in Fukushima after 3/11.
    They sent a suicide squad down there to drain the water out of the basements. Those guys all died horrible deaths, pretty quickly. Their skin just fell off. They knew if the basements were not drained and the corium hit the water, then MASSIVE amounts of radiation would come out and the corium/water mix would trigger massive explosions that would make the continent unlivable. So they sacrificed a team of 'volunteers' to get the water out of the basements at Chernobyl. They sacrificed another whole team of miners to dig a huge room and make an AC cooling system to keep the corium from hitting groundwater. About 1 million people were sacrificed to try and stop the coriums and clean up Chernobyl.
    At Fukushima, after 3/11, it was the exact same situation, but there was a MUCH different, and much worse response. No one cared. Only 50 people stayed on site. No one volunteered to drain anything, and no one even tried to avert this worst case potentially globe killing disaster of coriums melting out and hitting water in the basements. No one tried to keep the coriums from hitting the groundwater, which is below all of these nuclear reactors. They still don't even know where the coriums are.


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  • Posting here because the webcam discussion forum is no longer available, as we were discussing the pink 'mushroom' shaped cloud visible over Daiichi on the Futaba cam
    I just noticed an oddity on the Futaba cam view I wanted to post but cannot access the webcam discussion forum.
    Maybe our conversation was off topic, according to the NSA or whoever monitors these discussions.
    Pdf of screenshots: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7ytb8jho2t28w2/Pink%20Light%20Sep%2014%202014.pdf?dl=0
    My blog has a few of the images http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/pink-skies-at-daiichi-sep-14-2014.html
    Anyway here is my comment:
    Futaba cam switched back to the Daiichi view from the intersection and there was a suddent shift in views of the plant site. First, the site looked like it had a significant pink halo. Then it was as if a new view suddenly replaced what I was seeing. New view had a signifcantly reduced pink halo. ???? It reminded that of when I saw the birds fly backwards as the cam rewound the other day.


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  • keep getting error messages on Enenews.. flooding attack or solar storm effect?


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  • Bones Bones
    Yep, we are screwed. I have run out of things to say anymore. lol It's a sick reality, for me if not those around me, at this point.


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  • Honest spin…but still spin.
    "At Fukushima in Japan we have a raging nuclear meltdown, three of them — simultaneously — going on even as we speak. Even as we speak, they still have not yet gotten control of three melted cores." TY Michio Kaku.


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  • "At Fukushima in Japan we have a raging nuclear meltdown, three of them — simultaneously —" – Kaku
    …and they've been raging for 3 1/2 years. That's over 1280 days so far, with no end in sight.
    The Nuclear Proponents seem really quiet lately.
    ? The POTUS says nothing. :shock:


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    • davidh7426 davidh7426
      The POTUS is saying nothing, because he's concentrating on his golf swing… Got to keep those scores low, you know.


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      • Shaker1
        President Obama gave a few moments to the press as he and members of their entourage were boarding the Presidential helicopter. To the noise of the copters turbine and rotors, this is what he said.
        "I really don't have time for any questions, but I will make a statement just so you guys have something of real substance to report.
        As you can see, me and the guys are loading our clubs for a round at the Middle Eastern Graveyard Club. I know the course isn't quite finished, but, as this is funded by the US borrowing and tax dollars, we will tour the construction to be sure that our money is being well spent. We're all quite enthusiastic, as we've all had some input in its design, and we've been asked to give our attention to some reluctance of the Syrians. But building upon the previous underfunded and unfinished older European effort and the spotty of native sovereign support for our friends in big oil, with the support of the UN and the inclusion of the previous European investors as NATO, the expertise that the US has been able to contribute since the end of World War II that really began to shape up in the late '40s in Israel is becoming be a truly magnificent, if difficult to maintain, set of links to play.
        I might add that while we're playing I plan to discuss an adjoining and sister course to this in Africa, upon which we've already began construction…"


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    • Quiet? They have been rallying for a new rebirth. They got BILLIONs in new funding for new plants and are celebrating their victory. They don't need to say anything as they seem to be winning the battle for hearts and minds.


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  • danger kitty danger kitty
    Testing
    Apparently some are having trouble logging in.
    Something big-lots of smoke-reported on webcam forum. I can't access wencams-weak internet signal in the backwoods.
    Test


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  • KI IS GOOD FOR YOU SOLARAMA X CANYON
    There are network problems globally due to magnetic interruptions in the environment. Broadcast digital TV in Australia is suffering minor glitches. Network providers are experiencing packet loss globally.
    The visual peculiarities are promoting evil agendas in very unusual display. Oscars all round. Those with eyes see, those with ears hear. Reminds me of the 1930s. Anyone would think these evil entities were planning a financial daddy war bux boom. Remember the last one, killed their own people, supplied both sides. Corporation Anti-Christs, with their collaborator false religions. The Pope loved cakeies with Hitler as Homosexuals, gypsies, Jews, blacks were burnt alive. Nothing like practising what you preach?
    I guess its 3 years later than never that we're getting the news we knew 3 years ago.
    Ponders are all these distractions an illusion to the truth that THEY ARE VERY NAUGHTY BOYS AND DID SIN UPON NATURE?


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  • hbjon hbjon
    Don't stop with three. The reactor that was shutoff, turned itself back on again and blew to smithereens :( , but we also need to count the cores that were chilling in the SFP's. Not too many people still think they're in those pools.
    The aquifer is no worry. The fuel went through that with a plop plop fizz fizz. Now it's accumulated a half mile below the complex with jets of steam shooting in all directions.
    Many tons of fuel flashed out of the main blobs on their way down and created small tunnels, veins, and tubes. Through the tubes, large volumes of water in the form of steam and vapor have been eroding the rock. The entire complex will begin sinking into the ground and will be completely swallowed up by the earth.(that is unless a volcano erupts underneath the complex, than all bets are off)


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  • name999 name999
    plop plop fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is…


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    • hbjon hbjon
      Yup, and it's a misleading image to paint on our minds eye. Because the fizz fizz doesn't stop fizzing when it hits bottom. Hotaters made me realize that as the drips build up on the bottom of the aquifer, they will form a single blob again. Then a brand new meaning of fizz fizz starts to take shape :(


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  • General User General User
    Located In Pennsylvania, USA
    All electronics stable here.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Copy of webcam thread~~~~~~~
    mt1000
    September 13, 2014 at 7:46 pm
    I see same haze now on web cams and the traffic cam. Reposted majia's link on the hounds forum in case they cannot grt into ENE.
    ENE has DNS attack now … or else other tech issue tonight.
    jackassrig
    September 13, 2014 at 9:15 pm
    10:14 Futabagun White smoke over entire site.
    jackassrig
    September 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm
    GD the smoke is billowing up over entire site.
    mt1000
    September 13, 2014 at 10:26 pm
    you said it!
    ~~~~~~~~end repost~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    —-Begin Rant——
    Everyone;
    We must lock down security on the PC/Laptop you use to
    cruise this site and the web. If your antivirus can be bought at Wally-world, its over-priced junk! As useless as the data Tepco releases…
    Never allow Sliverlight or Biong, or Javda to install anything!
    drop me a note, I'll share my windows 7- Firefox configuration for the US, it may work off shore, but do not know for sure.
    JonPaul2089[at]gmail-com
    ———end rant————
    Peace to all


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    • KI IS GOOD FOR YOU SOLARAMA X CANYON
      I gave up on windows years ago. You might as well say look at me, look at me.
      Go out and get a cheap tablet, use a vpn in say Panama that has no data collection laws. Then you can play internet.
      You could use the TOR network with firefox, but I've always found TOR more trouble than its worth. Very resource exhausting.
      I wonder if they ever put a rolling loop on those cams at TEPCO?
      You can get a tabby for about 60 bux these days.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters
        MT, Solarama,
        Someone recommended Sandboxie to me. It worked well for making my hard drive "invisible" for a long time. But a little bit tricky to use, IMO. Might try setting it up again.
        I hate the tracking BS that I have to put up with. Google goggling me and getting my location all the time. Or whomever is doing it. Go look up yer own arse, then come see me, budster. It is SO annoying to be tracked all the time. Shove it, spy dirtbags!


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  • General User General User
    @hbjon
    Thank You, you posted as I ranted…
    Agree 100%, As #3 went [some kind of] Critical and mushroom clouded, every core and fuel pool on site absorbed additional neutron flux energy. Said increase in neutron flux in every pool and reactor warmed things up a bit. If #4 had its lid off and was loaded with fuel- that mushroom cloud would have
    'illuminated' the core with quite a spike of neutrons
    Here we are 1280+ days later, it seems with ever increasing amounts of neutron flux [gamma shine] across the entire site.
    At some point individual pools/piles of semi-critical waste will exponentially respond to this flux.
    Perhaps now is when this will happen? Seems things are getting quite choppy now


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    • hbjon hbjon
      The important thing to understand is that when borated water got pumped down the holes, a lot of the boron found its way to the corium to absorb neutrons and prevent the fizz fizz that can crank up the energy production. Boron makes up an estimated 20% of the insulating crust that surrounds the uncontained corium compound. The plop plop indicates that there was more than one blob to hit the aquifer and the goal would therefore be to introduce boron to keep small blobs from combining into larger blobs. If there are cracks in the bedrock, larger masses may slowly form in time, due to insulating rock on both sides and higher temperatures that have the power to distill the materials (enrichment). As we all can well imagine, there would be EQ under the complex if this were to happen.


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  • I copied this latest reading near the damaged reactors about 12:45 EST from the netc website. The entire area of the F-D complex is currently showing RADCON 4 CONCERN/WATCH (red) symbols. Hot enough to fry huevos.
    107000 nSv/h
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 6:1181341550 Fukushima Dai-ichi, Fukushima, JP
    Click here for data charts
    nSv/h: current 107000 Low 106000 High 117000
    Average 111763, Deviation 2711.8
    Last updated: 2014-09-13 10:30:00 GMT-0400


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    • General User General User
      Greetings BPn,
      May I suggest; log back into Netc and look at the data charts for any number of data sites around FUKU.
      With just the slightest imagination, you will be able to see recurring patterns in the alleged Geiger-counter data.
      There is no way this data could be accurate, radioactivity does not vary like these charts. open two or three and compare peaks-valleys.
      Peace All


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  • hot enough to pop some radioactive popcorn, with no heat needed.


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  • Crickets Crickets
    These are the facts that should be regularly reported in the MSM. People might even start paying attention.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters
    Raging meltdown continuing since 3/11, with no end in sight.
    What drama. Spin, spin, spin that story, spinmeisters. Get as much mileage out of it as you can. This story should keep you busy for the rest of your life — provided you still have the energy after RAIDS sets in to keep reporting on it.


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  • Crickets Crickets
    Ethyl Mercaptan is added to propane to give it an odor so that leaks can be detected and to make it safer to use as a source of fuel. It's too bad color couldn't be added to leaking radioactive water so that its whereabouts in the ocean were more obvious. By air, by land or by sea, it's the invisible killer that creeps up on, slowly tortures, and finally kills any living thing in its path.


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  • Crickets Crickets
    Consider the number of automobile recalls we have going on all the time, then consider how much more fool-proof NPP's are (or aren't). Why would they be? They're made by human beings!!!


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  • We Not They Finally
    Oh, they are talking about the water that people have ALREADY LONG SINCE BEEN DRINKING? Shouldn't they been posting how poisoned people are by now?


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  • KI IS GOOD FOR YOU SOLARAMA X CANYON
    They had a plan to kill us all off by going underground, releasing a virus to kill us, then come back up to live in a new world order paradise; that plan got Fukushimad up. Guess the elite are pissed with their mates now.
    That wheel is certainly turning. Karma.
    The GOD killer vaccination is said to kill the soul, kill the soul, kill the being.
    ……………
    When are these monsansters going to realise they lost the war against nature?


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  • rogerthat
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/09/319_164508.html
    By Jung Min-ho
    Concerns are growing over the safety of Japanese food imports following a disclosure Wednesday that sake was imported from Fukushima…
    Simplyinfo:
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/
    A Japanese court found TEPCO to be 75% liable for the deaths of some of the hospital patients from Futaba that died during the evacuation of Fukushima. The ruling came as part of an individual lawsuit by a family over the death of their family member. This court statement could bring on more lawsuits or cause TEPCO to be established as liable for these other deaths. Back in 2011 Futaba hospital was left for days unable … Read entire article »


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  • rogerthat
    http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/09/asahi-breweries-ltd-fukushima-factory-0-57-μsvh-photo/
    A Japanese citizen posted on Twitter the atmospheric dose nearby Fukushima factory of Asahi Breweries, Ltd.
    The person took a picture of geiger counter beside the sign of the factory. The factory is still in operation.
    The reading was 0.57 μSv/h.


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  • Jebus Jebus
    I'm thinking about how this three plus year old very important news,
    has not been/is not news today.
    Fukushima nuclear plant may have suffered 'melt-through', Japan admits
    Fuel rods have probably breached containment vessels – a more serious scenario than core meltdown – according to report
    News
    World news
    Japan disaster
    Fukushima nuclear plant may have suffered 'melt-through', Japan admits
    Fuel rods have probably breached containment vessels – a more serious scenario than core meltdown – according to report
    Justin McCurry in Tokyo – The Guardian, Wednesday 8 June 2011 02.39 EDT
    Molten nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant is likely to have burned through pressure vessels, not just the cores, Japan has said in a report in which it also acknowledges it was unprepared for an accident of the severity of Fukushima.
    It is the first time Japanese authorities have admitted the possibility that the fuel suffered "melt-through" – a more serious scenario than a core meltdown.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/08/fukushima-nuclear-plant-melt-through
    Raging is the operative word that the world should be utilizing after all this time of industrial ineptitude of the individuals and organizations that have been trusted to guard this Earth from the detrimental effects that this ancient technology has wrought upon all life…


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  • rogerthat
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/09/14/national/yoshidas-call-seawater-kept-reactor-cool-tokyo-dithered/#.VBV8a0LLjao
    This is the third in a six-part series on the Fukushima nuclear catastrophe based on accounts of people who struggled to contain the crisis in its early stages. Job titles and ages are as of March 2011. This series will run once a week. …


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  • Jebus Jebus
    You can feel, all the human souls, giving up on life…


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  • rogerthat
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/14/editorials/economic-realities-of-old-reactors/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=e
    This is a Japan Times editorial opinion that ends like this:
    ''… Since discontinuing a nuclear reactor reduces the asset value of the plant facility, its operator would need to report losses from the cut — an additional financial burden on the firms suffering from years of losses due to rising fuel costs. The trade ministry is reportedly mulling changes to accounting standards to ease the burden of the power companies.
    But operators of nuclear power plants are supposed to set aside the costs of decommissioning their reactors from the profits gained from power generation at the facilities.
    The government should not offer special treatment for the power companies merely because of the massive costs involved, as that would contravene economic principles and become difficult for taxpayers to support.''


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  • Tung Jen Tung Jen
    Michio Kaku, I believe you as my anchor to this insane world I find myself in. This lonely cry of some kind of survival. Pouring rain on the jungle, enough perhaps to replenish the earth and get me enough pressure to have water in the Papaya House. Leave this place to go into the restricted zone to salvage images of the past. The airports, security ,,,the fear of not being able to make it back home. Who will tend the garden…. feed the chickens….. ?


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    • PlowboyGrownUp
      Lots of respect for Michio Kaku. He was offered grants, and lots of material things to go into some aspect of nuclear (defense?), but he said no. He doesn't want to use his knowledge for destructive purposes. We're with you Michio.


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  • Jebus Jebus
    This is the most on topic first post I have ever seen on ENEnews…
    AxiomaticSilver
    September 14, 2014 at 10:55 am · Reply
    Hi all. This is my first post here on Enenews. I have being following this disaster from day one. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but if I am wrong I'm sure it will be flagged and deleted. I cut this documentary with the intention of keeping it simple and fast so it could be shown to the average person who knows nothing about the situation in the hope that it could be understood quickly and easily. I also wanted to keep it flowing and "entertaining" at the same time so as to keep the viewer interested. I find that if try to explain the science of nuclear technology or the geopolitical reasoning the average persons eyes glaze over and become disinterested so I made this to at least get the viewer concerned in the hope that it would lead to further investigation. I also wanted to give a solution if only on the side of health. This is something I haven't seen in other videos. There is no information in this that enenewsers don't already know but as I said sometimes it's better to keep things simple. Please share this if you think it serves it's purpose. Editing is a hobby of mine and it's heartbreaking that I had to make this documentary about Fukushima. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIip7stZglk
    http://enenews.com/forum-topic-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-mar-25-2014-present/comment-page-67#comment-574724


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  • curly
    So we have at least 3 cores melting down. From all I read on ene they have already gone thru the containment vessel and are in the ground. They don't need oxygen to burn so they keep melting everything they contact. What is under the containment vessel, thru what have they or will they hit? Are they already in the aquifer? Eventually they burn thru the aquifer and what next? How far down is there magma? What would happen if they contact magma? Is there any hope they would burn down deep in the earth's crust and possibly seal themselves as they go down. What keeps the cores at Chernobyl from melting thru their man made containment? Since those in charge have decided to do nothing, as opposed to Chernobyl, is there a chance that they could seal themselves below the aquifer. If they haven't yet reached the aquifer eventually they will won't they? It's so hard to sort out. How fuked are we? Is there any hope?


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks
      The only hope this world will have in the short and long term is if they shut down all Nuclear Technology worldwide via international law. :)
      Unless this is done soon, there will be no hope for this planet's future or the life that currently resides here. :(
      We do not live on the sun and we are running out of cancer/disease body bags…


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth
      Curly:
      Great questions.
      Since TEPCO refuses to reveal the location of the corium, the following is pure conjecture.
      Fukushima sits on a type of sandstone called "mudrock". This is a porous mix of sand and stone. Below the mudrock is sandstone, which is also porous.
      Why is porosity important?
      Because, corium melts the sand, which becomes glass, and collapses the porocity of the mudrock and sandstone.
      What is left behind, as the corium sinks, is a glass-lined "corium lava tube".
      The water table at Fukushima is so high, that the corium reached groundwater immediately after melt-out.
      Since some 1,000 tonnes of groundwater per day flows under the Fukushima power plants, the corium lava tubes are filled with water.
      If the bedrock under Fukushima were igneous rock, which is non-porous and very dense material, the corium would have sealed itself nicely as it sank into the bedrock.
      As it is, groundwater-filled corium lava tubes bring high levels of contamination into the aquifer, and into the Pacific Ocean.
      This is why ENEnewsers demand that TEPCO divert groundwater around Reactor Ruins1-3.


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  • ecoguy57
    TEPCO has lied to the people of Japan and to the world about the true levels of radiation released into the atmosphere, ground and into the Pacific Ocean! TEPCO also continues to dump millions and millions of gallons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean nonstop every single day to contaminate the fish, ocean life and animals. There is now verified proof of DNA damage and mutations throughout the food chain and we humans are next to suffer! Experts recommend to commence detoxing with the natural mineral called zeolite that is proven to safely remove both radiation and heavy metals from the human body.This MUST Be Done to help prevent DNA damage that will cause disease and future ongoing mutations! For more quality information do an online search for the single word Zeolite.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture
    WORLD IS LITTERED WITH NUCLEAR REACTORS . . .
    Meltdowns can happen anywhere.


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  • W8R W8R
    Hello,
    1: Chernoybl is melting thru the "coffin" as we speak.
    Hense the largest construction project in history to cover it again.
    2: Fukushima went ex-vessel in the first few days. #2 went first, the rest soon followed. The boron injectors were "disabled" and the console info lied, and still is. (Stuxnet).
    3: Prussian blue… Look it up… Then try to find some..
    Good luck..
    4: 785,000 Russians vs 50 Japanese mediators. Russia used boron concrete, Japan used seawater. No accident. They knew better.. Not bumbling ignorance, rather a calculated action. Water is a reflector, not just a moderator. Feeding the fire so to speak. Intentionally??
    5 There was a bomb in unit 3….


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  • David169
    Please pardon me for it has been about 50 years since I took chemistry and this may be an old man's misconception. It appears there is an impending crisis that makes the poisoning of the Pacific Ocean inconsequential.
    The three cores are hoped to be still in the containment vessel but burning their way out. The cores are hot because the reactive material is in close conjunction which has caused an out of control nuclear reaction.
    Why not send in a robot to find a way to the cores and then dilute them to spread the reactive material apart. Both the uranium and plutonium have a density of about 19 g/cc. Two metals that have a similar density are gold and tungsten. Tungsten and lead can be combined to form a soft metal that is used in the cores of long range bullets.
    If these combined metals our just a powdered tungsten was introduced into these molten cores wouldn't it spread the reactive materials apart? Even if gold was used the benefit would outweigh the cost of hundreds of tons of gold. If enough was introduced or introduced and allowed to mix with the molten cores this would spread the reactive material apart and the cores would cool once enough was introduced. It would seem to me that being at the bottom of a hole they are in the right position to attempt to dilute them.


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    • Cooter Cooter
      The corium tubes are probably like an ants underground home that has tunneled deep into the earth. There is no big blob to speak of.
      Water covers the coriums, as TEPCO puts into them 400 tons of water a day. They are producing steam full of radionuclides into the air and the water that touches the corium tubes leaches into the Pacific.
      There is no way to "dilute" the melted corium there is a way to slow it down and that process is to use concrete (specific type) and boron. The problem now is getting this mixture down into the tubes that are filled with water. The binding agent cement will wash away leaving only sand and gravel.
      By putting water into these corium tubes TEPCO has forever stopped any effort in slowing or stopping the advance of these coriums to their final resting place.
      There will be no extraction of these 3 meltdowns. There is no technology or even theories on how this would be accomplish. This is a 3 ring circus and we didn't have to pay admission. Getting out alive of this mess may cost us all, our lives but most assuredly our health, well being and longevity.
      Peace,


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    • Bungalow Phil
      David169,
      There are several ENE news posts that picture nuclear fuel as it is used in fuel rods. Not to far back if I remember. One thing to note is that the fuel is like powder. The MOX is 3-5% U235 6% PU or there abouts. This Areva fuel from France (according to Arto Lauri) is compressed into pellets and wrapped in Zirconium alloys. The pellets are packed into rods which in turn are bundled in racks. Thousands of them are used in cores. So it is unlikely or actually impossible to separate the isotopes under this scenario. Only in a reprocessing plant can this be achieved. Hope this helps to clarify the utter devastating scenario this presents.
      BP


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  • devark devark
    as far as I know, even robots can't get close


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    • People can get close to the coriums, but it will be a suicide mission, as was the case at Chernobyl. Many were asked to commit suicide and did just that to save the world.
      They are making the choice not to send in suicide squads in order to find the coriums or deal with the REAL issues, which require this.
      At Chernobyl only one corium was involved, and they sacrificed close to 1 million people.
      After Fukushima, despite being a much worse mega nuclear disaster with MOX, melted out coriums, and water from reactors going directly into the ocean, they had the original 50 people on site and that is about it..
      Thus, this mega nuclear disaster is getting worse and worse, because they are choosing NOT to deal with the real issues, hide and lie about what is happening. So far, they have not asked for any suicide squads, which will be required to deal with this. And the numbers of suicide squads required will be much higher than with Chernobyl, because many more ultra high radiation issues are involved, and they are getting worse, and more numerous with time.
      Very sad.. and too bad for all life on the planet, which is being slowly strangled by these invisible poisons and heavy metals.


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    • Sol Man
      Yeah, robots can't get close cuz they've got no heart.
      Or, they get close then they roll away again. It's so sad!


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  • Bungalow Phil
    SimplyInfo has posted a summary of what TEPCO has done in regards to containing Strontium 90 emissions in the groundwater. If this is true then it is possible to use this method, trenching and boring machinery to do what needs to be done in regards to the groundwater intrusion.
    Underground Zeolite Wall Installed At Fukushima Daiichi | SimplyInfo
    http://www.fukuleaks.org. http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=13777


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  • Jebus Jebus
    This one nuclear reactor explosion is at least equal to Chernobyl…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3Ofs6R9cg
    Keep adding from there…


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks
      Order the Military in!
      Bobby!
      Yes Sir!
      Want to join the military?
      Sir, will I have too/be ordered too go to a Nuclear Meltdown to protect a private corporation's interests?
      Yes Bobby, of course.
      Well, then "Hell No" I do not want to join the military!
      Bobby!
      Yes Sir!
      You better get to digging all those holes over there.
      Yes Sir, right away!


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      • Obewanspeaks I believe the victims were militia. They did not want to waste well trained §oldiers. Basically told help with the nuke meltdown and get sick later or have a bullet put through your head now. Similar things happen in your country. An American militia dude trained in artillery as a cool weekend job gets called to Iraq or Afghanistan for security detail. Japan business leaves it to organized crime Yakuza to find victims. Debtors junkies and other desperate people are at the frontlines of this historical unprecedented triplemeltdown event.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks
          Michio stated the only way to get a handle on these triple meltdowns was to order the military in!
          We all know that most military is now simply mercenaries for hire. Why they call it a voluntary army, while using the National Guard, who thought it was going to be some camping on the weekends gig. Little did they know the consequences when they signed on the dotted line.
          There are 400 more of these Nuclear Power Plants all over the world and everyone of them will break down! They all will eventually fail. This is our legacy..
          Who you going to call the Nuke Busters?
          Yes, we are all now screwed beyond anyone's rational belief!


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks
        Bobby!
        Yes Sir!
        Why are you so afraid of this Nuclear Technology the government and the military are embracing?
        Well Sir, have you ever seen what Nuclear does to people and biological life when they blow up?
        No Bobby, I have been way to busy making a living and buying things and watching lots of TV.
        Well Sir, My uncle was at Chernobyl and he says their are pictures of what this does on the net.
        Here sir, take a look at these.
        https://www.google.com/search?q=chernobyl+deformities,+cancers+and+mutations&espv=2&biw=885&bih=502&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ySAWVPD6C4GziwKjroG4Bg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
        Wow Bobby did that really happen to all these people?
        Yes Sir! I have another cousin who lives in Iraq too and she says everyone there has cancer and it's really bad their too and all of it was from Radiation Contamination from DU weapons use.
        Sir, take a look at these too!
        https://www.google.com/search?q=Iraq+Fallujah+deformities,+cancers+and+mutations&espv=2&biw=885&bih=502&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uSEWVMvVIIOHjAKBt4DgAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg
        Bobby these are terrible and everyone I know, now has cancer or some strange disease!
        Yes, Sir and this is why I will not join the military to be ordered to my death from disease!
        Bobby I understand and your are very wise!
        Still you need to dig all those holes over there.
        I know Sir, right away Sir!


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  • KI IS GOOD FOR YOU KI IS GOOD FOR YOU
    I wonder if our race once lived on mars and sCrEwEd ThAt uP?


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  • We are pissing on our planet. Fukushima nuclear mess just one aspect of this fossil fuel pesticide nuclear meltdown mess that fuels the economy. You might think your well off but compared to the top 5 percent you are a slave wage earner pissing away your grandkids future for a pittance. The most moral thing you can do is quit your day job and find an under the table source of income. People need to choose real life good forces rather then an economy based on the destruction of this planet. Peace


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    Repost: I don't want this lost in the general thread
    How Much Radioactive Material Was Released from Fukushima
    "The purpose of this diary is to summarize a recently released report by the Science Council of Japan that compared simulation results from nine regional atmospheric models, six global atmospheric models and eleven ocean models with monitoring data to better constrain the amount of radioactivity released from Fukushima at the height of the accident.
    To obtain better estimates of the 137-Cs source term (and associated radionuclides mobilized during the early stages of the disaster) the scientific team assembled by the Science Council of Japan compared the output of a suite of atmosphere and ocean models with existing observations made globally by the international scientific community.
    The results of this intercomparison were as follows and are reported on pg. 50-51 of the study:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/08/1328170/-How-Much-Radioactive-Material-Was-Released-by-Fukushima#


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    • I'm not buying those numbers, especially as it doesn't include 3 years of ongoing releases


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      • Sickputer
        MarineChemist (of Daily Kos diary postings is Associate Professor of Oceanography Jay T. Cullen of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. He has been bashing Enenews posters and posting his Conca-type lowball radiation estimates about Fukushima for years. He is an unabashed advocate of comparing natural radioactive elements like potassium to artificial highly dangerous radiation in an attempt to lowball Fukushima releases.
        One of his followup comments to his suspect Kos posting is a real doozy:
        "Measurements of 90-Sr in air, soil and water indicate that releases of 90-Sr were about 30-10,000 fold less than 137-Cs. The release of 90-Sr from Fukushima is similar to the release from the Chernobyl disaster in 1986 and about 600-fold lower than the releases from atmospheric weapons tests that peaked in the mid-20th century."
        SP: Big Brother ridiculous babble. He fails to reference scientific studies to back up these lowball Strontium-90 claims. Scientific evidence from past nuclear accidents at commercial power plants show an almost equal amount of Strontium-90 released compared to the Cesium 137 releases. A gram of Strontium-90 is far more dangerous than a gram of Cesium 137. Strontium-90 has long been the verboten isotope in Japanese studies of Daiichi releases. They ignore it because the situation is so dire in Japan.
        Quoting 10 Japanese or even 20 studies by the entities who have lied and misled the sleeping public does not pass the sniff test.


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
          I'm glad to hear your opinion.
          I thought the input from all the organizations …was garbage.


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        • Sickputer
          Continued…I am a social scientist and historian and my take on the data being bandied by the oceanographers and nuclear scientists is that they are protecting their vested interests. Who can measure what is clearly out of control? The final tally over decades will be a hundred times Chernobyl. That is based on the tonnage of uranium fuel still emitting from Japan in aerial and water releases.
          Billions of sea creatures have already mysteriously died in the path of these releases. Higher life forms are at serious risk. Bioaccumulation is a word the Cullens and Concas don't talk about very much.
          They will not escape the verdict of history.


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  • Jebus Jebus
    I can only think of three reasons that the MSM does not report on Fukushima.
    1. We are so fukued that panic will ensue.
    2. They are beholden to the gag order from the system to protect the positive public perception of nuclear power.
    3. All of the above.


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  • Jebus Jebus
    Here's what faux news shows you on TV…
    Scientists rush to solve mystery of melting starfish
    Jul. 25, 2014 – 2:17 – Claudia Cowan reports from Aquarium of the Bay in San Francisco
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/3697309977001/scientists-rush-to-solve-mystery-of-melting-starfish/#sp=show-clips


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  • tinfoiled tinfoiled
    Scientists can't figure out something again. But, at least they know there's "no risk to human health." Well, that is good news, wouldn't want my legs to fall off or melt into goo while taking a dip in the Ocean.


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    • Sickputer
      They did research studies in late 1950s proving Cesium 137 in water passes directly through fish skins. Conca and Cullen were just babes or a gleam in momma's eye when they did real ocean research on deadly radiation.
      How about the skin of surfers, beach swimmers, fishermen, and even whale watchers?
      You don't have to eat a bad fish to get radioactive contamination. Just inhale ocean shore fog or ingest sea water through your skin membranes. Those seashore jaunts are looking mighty risky with Fukushima pollution pouring unabated over 300 tons of unsecured nuclear cores.
      Out of control for the next million years means they talk all they want about how safe the water and air is, but it's just a Big Brother soothing lie to calm the ignorant public. I bet the oceanographers are lot more picky about their seafood over the next few decades.


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