the roots of Harry Potter: Richard Potter
by farmer on Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:00 am
by PerishNot on Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:51 am
by Rudi on Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:50 pm
by Mttw633 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:03 am
by RomaLynnStar on Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:14 am
by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:59 pm
PerishNot: It is shocking the deliberate ploy to set out to corrupt
our youth. Knew it was evil, but didn't know this facet of it. It is
shocking what is happening before our eyes. No wonder Jesus said in
Matthew 7:13 Enter in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and
broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be that go
in thereat:
After seeing this, I don't think the Christian rock is good either because of what's behind this rock music. What a mockery! God is a holy God and I don't think this music fits into that category. Our son used to do the sound for concerts at church. There's a lot of darkness in it. Half the time you don't know what they're saying.
The hope of all this is; God is able to draw many out of it and to him. He will bring them out. And when they do come out, they will be a testimony against it. That is the hope, that God is greater than all this evil that is happening. He is going to have a generation that is sold out for Jesus and the gospel. Praise his name, Jesus!
by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:10 pm
Rudi: We know that Satan is the father of lies from the beginning,
and JK Rowling is serving Satan. I don't believe her for a minute! Not
accusing her but she is serving the power of darkness. We who walk in
the light as he is in the light don't walk in darkness or serve it. We
know what truth is. Someone like Rowling doesn't have truth.
I believe this is a deliberate scheme to train our children and corrupt many Christians who think Potter is o.k. and turn them to the darkness and Satan. I know Christians that read those devilish books. God help us!! I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole. These books are impacting people just like the music of today does.
by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:17 pm
I'd like to share a little story about Potter that happened. Our
family were at the beach having a good time and my husband noticed this
boy buried in the sand with his face completely covered with sand. I
went over to this boy who didn't have anyone with him. I asked him if
he was o.k. He said, with a faint voice, " Harry Potter will save me".
I told him only Jesus could save you. Helped the boy out of that hole
that I noticed has water in it. He could have suffocated or drowned.
Later I found out that the Potter book he read had a similar scene in it, and he was playing it out. Found this out by a newspaper article about it. This is definitely having an impact, and we've haven't seen the full implicatiions of them yet. What is it going to be like five or ten years from now?? Only God!!!
by M.C.Nige on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:09 pm
I'd also be interested in an answer to this...
Recently, I've started to think more seriously about the whole Harry Potter phenomenon. What triggered this off is that on another forum I'm on, one poster posted ten successive posts in defence of Harry Potter. I just can't understand why a Christian would go to such lengths to defend something that is not of God.
I also have concerns about the way some in the Church of England were recommending their youth workers to use Harry Potter in their evangelism!
by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:17 pm
by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:18 pm
by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:19 pm
by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:27 pm
M.C. Nige: That is puzzling and so off the wall that Christians would
defend such a work of the devil. Could it be that they are mesmerized
by it and Satan has pulled the wool over their eyes to the extent that
they are blinded by the god of this world, Satan.
These Christans are playing with fire. If my teenagers went to that youth group, I'd pull them out. They would not be allowed to participate. Either that first off, we would go to the leadership of that church and tell them how wrong that would be. Potter should be no where near a church. But this is the apostate day we are living in.
by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Joyful Child: We found Narnia to be too weird to watch. We didn't
finish watching it. We ran through it, to see if it got any better. It
sure wasn't bible. Thought I'd share that because you mentioned about
it. This is what we saw in it.
This new movie, your right, it is so of the darkness & the devil that because they've already been conditioned to accept Potter; they will fall right into it and go for it. They're really out to corrupt our children big time. Every time one of these come out, they are darker & more evil. The kids are being desensitized. Hope Christians stay away from it.
by RomaLynnStar on Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:21 pm
by Gracie2 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:41 am
by joyfulchild on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:55 am
Gracie2 you stay strong!This is why this forum is so good-we support
eachother throught this sort a stuff.My daughters teacher reads the
class the Chicken Soup for the Soul(Jack Canfield-part of The
Secret-wrote this 
)She is at an ADVENTIST school though we are NOT adventists
.I havent been able to work out a way to say I do not like this without
causing my daughter problems as she LOVES the class and I generally
love the school I feel wek here BUT have explained to my daughter why the book is wrong-new age.Also we pray for the teacher etc.
by runner4jesus on Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:29 am
Gracie2: They will hate you, when you stand for righteousness. It
reminds them of what they should not do. They hated Jesus too! Would
like to encourage you to fight the good fight of faith, and don't let
down one inch. They might think your narrow minded, but we are on the
narrow way that leads to life.
by soulfullyHis on Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:01 pm
by Lookfortruth on Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:14 am
by RomaLynnStar on Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:12 am
This world is so gone, and it is just another thing to make our children accept that the homosexual is normal.
I think that our Father has to send our Lord soon, you cannot even keep your children innocent hardly any more. I do not mean that they do not have to receive Jesus as savior, but I mean everything is so blatant in this world, it is so difficult to bring them up in the way of the Lord.
by joyfulchild on Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:02 am
This knowledge is the thing that brings me GREAT JOY NOW...we can cling
to this TRUTH through all that is to come-I cant WAIT to see HIM!!!!
by Britbloke on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:52 pm
by joyfulchild on Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:05 pm
Brother NARNIA was NOT perfect!There are serious issues with Narnia too-you only need to go look-its out there.
by saved2001 on Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:03 am
by farmer on Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:53 am
by joyfulchild on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:10 pm
Hey Bjorn!Thanks-am having a look now.
by joyfulchild on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:16 pm
by joyfulchild on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:22 pm
WELL its a shock-I must say.Well written Bjorn and well explained.
by Lookfortruth on Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:10 am
by stevesherri on Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:52 pm
by farmer on Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:10 pm
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the roots of Harry Potter: Richard Potter
by farmer on Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:00 am
"From JOHN COLEMAN’S 4th edition of his amazing
book The Committee of 300, we read of the origins of the satanic book
and film series for children, “Harry Potter.”
The East India Com¬pany mentioned herein was the early tool of the New World Order, Cole¬man writes: “The East India Compa¬ny, the British East India Company and their suc¬cessors, the “300” [Committee of 300] operated on the premise that they were the Olympians, destined to control man and the planet, which, already in the seventeenth century, was showing signs of disintegration due to overpopulation that had to be corrected.”
Coleman continues:
“Prominent among the East Indiamen was John Mildenhall, who arrived at Agra in India in 1603 to obtain a concession from the Moguls to trade opium. But the Mogul kept him waiting until 1608, when Robert Clive, known as “Clive of India,” and William Watson waged war against Mogul Mir Jafar, forcing him to grant to the East India Company on October 22, 1765, total control over revenues in Benares, Bengal and Bihar, the most lucrative opium ar¬eas in all of India. (Source: India House documents: William Langer…).
Many of the highest rank¬ing officials of the East India Com¬pany and its successors were men with deep Socialistic beliefs, drawn from secret societies. Fabian Social¬ism, among whose earliest members were George Bernard Shaw and RICHARD POTTER who was a very wealthy man who wrote mystic and witchcraft stories, one of which was turned into a book called “HARRY POTTER” by the Tavistock Institute, primarily for children as an introduction to witchcraft. Other members were Stafford Cripps who became foreign minister, Bertrand Russell and Annie Besant, a prominent Theosophist. H.G. Wells played a leading role in shaping policies at home and foreign policies of the British East India Company, policies that inflicted severe damage upon the young American Republic.” (End of quote. Emphasis added).
Page 78:
“The Pratt family was closely tied to the East India Company’s ‘trade’ with India and held significant finan- cial interests in the ROCKEFELLER Standard Oil Empire. Beatrice and Sydney Webb went on to found the LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS in 1895, through which passed some of the most important figures in British and American politics, business, and government. The dis¬tinguished alumnus included David Rockefeller, erstwhile president of the National Republican Oil Com¬pany, and the leading finan- cier of the infamous Institute for Pacific Relations (IPR) - a British East India Company -Committee of 300 spin-off) that provided funding for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. He was also the mentor of George Herbert Walker BUSH and John F. Kennedy.
Of interest is Beatrice Webb, the dominant partner in the en¬terprise. One of three daughters of RICHARD POTTER, a wealthy railroad magnate deeply involved in occultism, she was living at her father’s home when she met Webb. …
Richard Potter had no need to work and spent his time delving into occultism and was deeply steeped in occult theory and practice and is believed to be the central char¬acter in the children’s witchcraft novel HARRY POTTER that recently ‘came out of nowhere’ to become a runaway success, but which we now know was the tales of Richard Potter revamped to the Tavistock Institute and then given to an unknown au¬thor to ‘write.’”
(End of quote. Emphasis added).
John Coleman speaks of the violent attack on the minds of
children and the at¬tempted destruction of Christianity and indeed all mention of Christ Himself, and the growth of this enterprise since the 1950s.
Here we will return to his book, The Committee of 300:
“The first at¬tack came with the book Holy Blood, Holy Grail, a fictional account, purporting to refute the death on the cross and the resurrection of Christ, as a fabrication. It poses the ‘theory’ that somehow Jesus survived death on the cross, and was spirited away to recuperate. After his recovery, Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had three children. He is supposed to have travelled to India. We do not wish to give publicity to thisugly fabrication by discussing it, except to say that it is Gnostic in origin.
In 2005, a worse blasphemy of Christ arrived in the form of another work of fiction called The Da Vinci Code. Although ostensibly written by Dan Brown, it is my opinion that the book is a thinly disguised rewrite of Holy Blood, Holy Grail and more likely than not, under the direction of Tavistock Social scientists, much in the manner of The Aquarian Conspiracy and Harry Potter. I say this because all three books marked the beginning of a ’new culture’ that spread like wildfire…” (End of quote).
WHAT IS THIS “TAVISTOCK” INSTITUTE?
It is The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, which Coleman refers to as “the mother of all think tanks” the master brainwashing and propa¬ganda institute in the world. Power¬ful institute of the Luciferian global government.
John Coleman has docu¬men-ted thoroughly the rise of Rock and Roll and the explosion of the satanic music that is polluting the
young people of this dis¬traught planet. He found through his research that the Beatles, who really started it in in¬tensity, were a setup by the Tavistock Institute.
Here is just
a sample of this:
“The very music carried an invita¬tion to break down values. It was the forerunner of “Beatle-music” that was to “invite a breakdown” and bring revolution to the world in the 1960s and 1970s. To the uninitiated, the Beatles “Roll over Beet-hoven” was just a funny song. But to those who monitor the forced changing times, it was a significant statement of intent by Tavistock that here was an im¬portant announce- ment; the music and song world had been drastically and irre¬trievably changed.” (p. 105).
The report on how the Beatles were pro¬grammed and pre¬pared for their role is mind-blowing. The whole scene of discordant music and rebellion planned for the young is outlined, filled with the “dialectics” of George Hegel, Marxist philosophy and oc¬cult wickedness. The poor children of the earth have been sold out to Satan! And in 2007 the churches themselves are falling into Satanic Rock and Roll and jungle drumming!
“My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6. "
free onmline mag. Despatch
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Despatch/Vol19-2.htm
pp 35-38.
The East India Com¬pany mentioned herein was the early tool of the New World Order, Cole¬man writes: “The East India Compa¬ny, the British East India Company and their suc¬cessors, the “300” [Committee of 300] operated on the premise that they were the Olympians, destined to control man and the planet, which, already in the seventeenth century, was showing signs of disintegration due to overpopulation that had to be corrected.”
Coleman continues:
“Prominent among the East Indiamen was John Mildenhall, who arrived at Agra in India in 1603 to obtain a concession from the Moguls to trade opium. But the Mogul kept him waiting until 1608, when Robert Clive, known as “Clive of India,” and William Watson waged war against Mogul Mir Jafar, forcing him to grant to the East India Company on October 22, 1765, total control over revenues in Benares, Bengal and Bihar, the most lucrative opium ar¬eas in all of India. (Source: India House documents: William Langer…).
Many of the highest rank¬ing officials of the East India Com¬pany and its successors were men with deep Socialistic beliefs, drawn from secret societies. Fabian Social¬ism, among whose earliest members were George Bernard Shaw and RICHARD POTTER who was a very wealthy man who wrote mystic and witchcraft stories, one of which was turned into a book called “HARRY POTTER” by the Tavistock Institute, primarily for children as an introduction to witchcraft. Other members were Stafford Cripps who became foreign minister, Bertrand Russell and Annie Besant, a prominent Theosophist. H.G. Wells played a leading role in shaping policies at home and foreign policies of the British East India Company, policies that inflicted severe damage upon the young American Republic.” (End of quote. Emphasis added).
Page 78:
“The Pratt family was closely tied to the East India Company’s ‘trade’ with India and held significant finan- cial interests in the ROCKEFELLER Standard Oil Empire. Beatrice and Sydney Webb went on to found the LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS in 1895, through which passed some of the most important figures in British and American politics, business, and government. The dis¬tinguished alumnus included David Rockefeller, erstwhile president of the National Republican Oil Com¬pany, and the leading finan- cier of the infamous Institute for Pacific Relations (IPR) - a British East India Company -Committee of 300 spin-off) that provided funding for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. He was also the mentor of George Herbert Walker BUSH and John F. Kennedy.
Of interest is Beatrice Webb, the dominant partner in the en¬terprise. One of three daughters of RICHARD POTTER, a wealthy railroad magnate deeply involved in occultism, she was living at her father’s home when she met Webb. …
Richard Potter had no need to work and spent his time delving into occultism and was deeply steeped in occult theory and practice and is believed to be the central char¬acter in the children’s witchcraft novel HARRY POTTER that recently ‘came out of nowhere’ to become a runaway success, but which we now know was the tales of Richard Potter revamped to the Tavistock Institute and then given to an unknown au¬thor to ‘write.’”
(End of quote. Emphasis added).
John Coleman speaks of the violent attack on the minds of
children and the at¬tempted destruction of Christianity and indeed all mention of Christ Himself, and the growth of this enterprise since the 1950s.
Here we will return to his book, The Committee of 300:
“The first at¬tack came with the book Holy Blood, Holy Grail, a fictional account, purporting to refute the death on the cross and the resurrection of Christ, as a fabrication. It poses the ‘theory’ that somehow Jesus survived death on the cross, and was spirited away to recuperate. After his recovery, Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had three children. He is supposed to have travelled to India. We do not wish to give publicity to thisugly fabrication by discussing it, except to say that it is Gnostic in origin.
In 2005, a worse blasphemy of Christ arrived in the form of another work of fiction called The Da Vinci Code. Although ostensibly written by Dan Brown, it is my opinion that the book is a thinly disguised rewrite of Holy Blood, Holy Grail and more likely than not, under the direction of Tavistock Social scientists, much in the manner of The Aquarian Conspiracy and Harry Potter. I say this because all three books marked the beginning of a ’new culture’ that spread like wildfire…” (End of quote).
WHAT IS THIS “TAVISTOCK” INSTITUTE?
It is The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, which Coleman refers to as “the mother of all think tanks” the master brainwashing and propa¬ganda institute in the world. Power¬ful institute of the Luciferian global government.
John Coleman has docu¬men-ted thoroughly the rise of Rock and Roll and the explosion of the satanic music that is polluting the
young people of this dis¬traught planet. He found through his research that the Beatles, who really started it in in¬tensity, were a setup by the Tavistock Institute.
Here is just
a sample of this:
“The very music carried an invita¬tion to break down values. It was the forerunner of “Beatle-music” that was to “invite a breakdown” and bring revolution to the world in the 1960s and 1970s. To the uninitiated, the Beatles “Roll over Beet-hoven” was just a funny song. But to those who monitor the forced changing times, it was a significant statement of intent by Tavistock that here was an im¬portant announce- ment; the music and song world had been drastically and irre¬trievably changed.” (p. 105).
The report on how the Beatles were pro¬grammed and pre¬pared for their role is mind-blowing. The whole scene of discordant music and rebellion planned for the young is outlined, filled with the “dialectics” of George Hegel, Marxist philosophy and oc¬cult wickedness. The poor children of the earth have been sold out to Satan! And in 2007 the churches themselves are falling into Satanic Rock and Roll and jungle drumming!
“My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6. "
free onmline mag. Despatch
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Despatch/Vol19-2.htm
pp 35-38.
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by PerishNot on Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:51 am
Harry Potter is Scary Stuff-we need to encourage other believers to AVOID. Especially the youth.
For the best exposés DVD's I've seen on Harry Potter, Rock & Roll and The Da Vinci Code, check out www.goodfight.org. Pastor Joe Shemel ministry does extensive research and the DVD's are very high quality and always presents the salvation message in it. We bought the DVD's and got a permit in our downtown area. We set up a small screen and showed the exposé's outside the theater. The youth sat on the curb and watched, as they would leave we had opportunity to witness or give them a gospel tract.
Also, one of the best Rock & Roll Exposés out there (and reveals Satan's agenda, just like this article was saying) is from this same Pastor. I personally have heard several testimonies of how people were saved after watching these. You can watch part 1 here: http://www.perishnot.com/node/11 , to see the rest, just click on video on top and look for part 2,3 & 4. There is even a 12 hour video for someone who is deeply entrenched.
For the best exposés DVD's I've seen on Harry Potter, Rock & Roll and The Da Vinci Code, check out www.goodfight.org. Pastor Joe Shemel ministry does extensive research and the DVD's are very high quality and always presents the salvation message in it. We bought the DVD's and got a permit in our downtown area. We set up a small screen and showed the exposé's outside the theater. The youth sat on the curb and watched, as they would leave we had opportunity to witness or give them a gospel tract.
Also, one of the best Rock & Roll Exposés out there (and reveals Satan's agenda, just like this article was saying) is from this same Pastor. I personally have heard several testimonies of how people were saved after watching these. You can watch part 1 here: http://www.perishnot.com/node/11 , to see the rest, just click on video on top and look for part 2,3 & 4. There is even a 12 hour video for someone who is deeply entrenched.
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concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is
longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that
all should come to repentance." 2Pe 3:9
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by Rudi on Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:50 pm
Hi Farmer-
Thanks so much-this was a very intriguing article. I have a question though. How does this information square with JK Rowling as being the author of the Harry Potter books and her saying the idea for Harry Potter just popped into her head while she was on a train ride?
"I had been writing almost continuously since the age of six but I had never been so excited about an idea before. I simply sat and thought, for four (delayed train) hours, and all the details bubbled up in my brain, and this scrawny, black-haired, bespectacled boy who didn't know he was a wizard became more and more real to me."
I also found the Bertrand Russell,Annie Besant,H.G.Wells connection to be
of profound interest as it relates to Constances' research. How did you get this information? It's amazing! Rudi
Thanks so much-this was a very intriguing article. I have a question though. How does this information square with JK Rowling as being the author of the Harry Potter books and her saying the idea for Harry Potter just popped into her head while she was on a train ride?
"I had been writing almost continuously since the age of six but I had never been so excited about an idea before. I simply sat and thought, for four (delayed train) hours, and all the details bubbled up in my brain, and this scrawny, black-haired, bespectacled boy who didn't know he was a wizard became more and more real to me."
I also found the Bertrand Russell,Annie Besant,H.G.Wells connection to be
of profound interest as it relates to Constances' research. How did you get this information? It's amazing! Rudi
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by Mttw633 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:03 am
Re.: The Beatles
On Oprah there was the director of a new movie and it's a musical all about Beatles songs; it seems pretty psychodelic in some parts if you ask me, kind of like St Peppers. In the title of the movie it has 'universe' in it, I can't remember the rest! Oprah just praised the movie. That should give us a heads up.
On Oprah there was the director of a new movie and it's a musical all about Beatles songs; it seems pretty psychodelic in some parts if you ask me, kind of like St Peppers. In the title of the movie it has 'universe' in it, I can't remember the rest! Oprah just praised the movie. That should give us a heads up.
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by RomaLynnStar on Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:14 am
Say, remember the recent show, well maybe not so recent, now about "The Secret"
that new DVD that Oprah gave such rampant approval to, and wanted everyone to see it cause it had so much so called truth in it.
Well the woman from Australia, the blond, do not remember her name, now, but anyway she gives this account of how she did this great study and found out that all of the great people of the past, Isaac Newton, etc, etc, knew this secret and used it to achieve such success,
"The Law of Attraction" so called. Well it turns out that this couple named Jerry and Esther Hicks, had worked with her and were on the first DVD, then they had some sort of falling out and on the later one they were gone.
Well this couple for many years, have supposedly been channeling the wise ascended masters, who called themselves Abraham, and had
already written a book called
"The Law of Attraction"
Now tell me why did Oprah sit there and act like this was all some new great revelation, Secret that this woman had uncovered. Just like it was all her original idea. I saw this Esther Hicks when asked about this, and she said, no we are not going to sue her, we have already made our millions on this, so why bother? Disgusting isn't it????
Same thing here with Harry Potter, right???
Like Soloman, in Ecclesiastes says,
Nothing new under the sun.
Thanks a lot, Farmer, really appreciate that information for you.
that new DVD that Oprah gave such rampant approval to, and wanted everyone to see it cause it had so much so called truth in it.
Well the woman from Australia, the blond, do not remember her name, now, but anyway she gives this account of how she did this great study and found out that all of the great people of the past, Isaac Newton, etc, etc, knew this secret and used it to achieve such success,
"The Law of Attraction" so called. Well it turns out that this couple named Jerry and Esther Hicks, had worked with her and were on the first DVD, then they had some sort of falling out and on the later one they were gone.
Well this couple for many years, have supposedly been channeling the wise ascended masters, who called themselves Abraham, and had
already written a book called
"The Law of Attraction"
Now tell me why did Oprah sit there and act like this was all some new great revelation, Secret that this woman had uncovered. Just like it was all her original idea. I saw this Esther Hicks when asked about this, and she said, no we are not going to sue her, we have already made our millions on this, so why bother? Disgusting isn't it????
Same thing here with Harry Potter, right???
Like Soloman, in Ecclesiastes says,
Nothing new under the sun.
Thanks a lot, Farmer, really appreciate that information for you.
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by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:59 pm
PerishNot: It is shocking the deliberate ploy to set out to corrupt
our youth. Knew it was evil, but didn't know this facet of it. It is
shocking what is happening before our eyes. No wonder Jesus said in
Matthew 7:13 Enter in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and
broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be that go
in thereat:
After seeing this, I don't think the Christian rock is good either because of what's behind this rock music. What a mockery! God is a holy God and I don't think this music fits into that category. Our son used to do the sound for concerts at church. There's a lot of darkness in it. Half the time you don't know what they're saying.
The hope of all this is; God is able to draw many out of it and to him. He will bring them out. And when they do come out, they will be a testimony against it. That is the hope, that God is greater than all this evil that is happening. He is going to have a generation that is sold out for Jesus and the gospel. Praise his name, Jesus!
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by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:10 pm
Rudi: We know that Satan is the father of lies from the beginning,
and JK Rowling is serving Satan. I don't believe her for a minute! Not
accusing her but she is serving the power of darkness. We who walk in
the light as he is in the light don't walk in darkness or serve it. We
know what truth is. Someone like Rowling doesn't have truth.
I believe this is a deliberate scheme to train our children and corrupt many Christians who think Potter is o.k. and turn them to the darkness and Satan. I know Christians that read those devilish books. God help us!! I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole. These books are impacting people just like the music of today does.
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by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:17 pm
I'd like to share a little story about Potter that happened. Our
family were at the beach having a good time and my husband noticed this
boy buried in the sand with his face completely covered with sand. I
went over to this boy who didn't have anyone with him. I asked him if
he was o.k. He said, with a faint voice, " Harry Potter will save me".
I told him only Jesus could save you. Helped the boy out of that hole
that I noticed has water in it. He could have suffocated or drowned.
Later I found out that the Potter book he read had a similar scene in it, and he was playing it out. Found this out by a newspaper article about it. This is definitely having an impact, and we've haven't seen the full implicatiions of them yet. What is it going to be like five or ten years from now?? Only God!!!
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by M.C.Nige on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:09 pm Rudi wrote:Hi Farmer-
Thanks so much-this was a very intriguing article. I have a question though. How does this information square with JK Rowling as being the author of the Harry Potter books and her saying the idea for Harry Potter just popped into her head while she was on a train ride?
"I had been writing almost continuously since the age of six but I had never been so excited about an idea before. I simply sat and thought, for four (delayed train) hours, and all the details bubbled up in my brain, and this scrawny, black-haired, bespectacled boy who didn't know he was a wizard became more and more real to me."
I'd also be interested in an answer to this...
Recently, I've started to think more seriously about the whole Harry Potter phenomenon. What triggered this off is that on another forum I'm on, one poster posted ten successive posts in defence of Harry Potter. I just can't understand why a Christian would go to such lengths to defend something that is not of God.
I also have concerns about the way some in the Church of England were recommending their youth workers to use Harry Potter in their evangelism!
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by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:17 pm
PerishNot: It is shocking the deliberate ploy to set out to corrupt our youth.
Sadly I agree.
check out this NEW REPLACEMENT for Harry P.Since there are only a couple of films left and the books are finished. No matter.THIS NEW FILM will continue the preparation of the youth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKZ4h3RyQo
This is the trailer-to me it OOZES darkness .But kids WONT see this.Another tragedy is this film is from the maker of Narnia-though I did have my doubts about the film.
His powers are scarily reminiscent of demonic ones.Such lines as" trust your powers..."make me feel ILL.
Sadly I agree.
check out this NEW REPLACEMENT for Harry P.Since there are only a couple of films left and the books are finished. No matter.THIS NEW FILM will continue the preparation of the youth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKZ4h3RyQo
This is the trailer-to me it OOZES darkness
.But kids WONT see this.Another tragedy is this film is from the maker of Narnia-though I did have my doubts about the film.
His powers are scarily reminiscent of demonic ones.Such lines as" trust your powers..."make me feel ILL.
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by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:18 pm
PerishNot: It is shocking the deliberate ploy to set out to corrupt our youth.
Sadly I agree.
check out this NEW REPLACEMENT for Harry P.Since there are only a couple of films left and the books are finished. No matter.THIS NEW FILM will continue the preparation of the youth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKZ4h3RyQo
This is the trailer-to me it OOZES darkness .But kids WONT see this.Another tragedy is this film is from the maker of Narnia-though I did have my doubts about the film.
His powers are scarily reminiscent of demonic ones.Such lines as" trust your powers..."make me feel ILL.
Sadly I agree.
check out this NEW REPLACEMENT for Harry P.Since there are only a couple of films left and the books are finished. No matter.THIS NEW FILM will continue the preparation of the youth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKZ4h3RyQo
This is the trailer-to me it OOZES darkness
.But kids WONT see this.Another tragedy is this film is from the maker of Narnia-though I did have my doubts about the film.
His powers are scarily reminiscent of demonic ones.Such lines as" trust your powers..."make me feel ILL.
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by joyfulchild on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:19 pm
sorry for the posting prob
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by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:27 pm
M.C. Nige: That is puzzling and so off the wall that Christians would
defend such a work of the devil. Could it be that they are mesmerized
by it and Satan has pulled the wool over their eyes to the extent that
they are blinded by the god of this world, Satan.
These Christans are playing with fire. If my teenagers went to that youth group, I'd pull them out. They would not be allowed to participate. Either that first off, we would go to the leadership of that church and tell them how wrong that would be. Potter should be no where near a church. But this is the apostate day we are living in.
PROCLAIMING THE TRUTH (see profile) John 17:17 Sanctify (set apart) them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
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by runner4jesus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Joyful Child: We found Narnia to be too weird to watch. We didn't
finish watching it. We ran through it, to see if it got any better. It
sure wasn't bible. Thought I'd share that because you mentioned about
it. This is what we saw in it.
This new movie, your right, it is so of the darkness & the devil that because they've already been conditioned to accept Potter; they will fall right into it and go for it. They're really out to corrupt our children big time. Every time one of these come out, they are darker & more evil. The kids are being desensitized. Hope Christians stay away from it.
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by RomaLynnStar on Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:21 pm
Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
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by Gracie2 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:41 am
I can't stand Harry Potter books, or movies.....
I have met SO MANY kids who's parents let them see the movies, etc...and they are Christians.......
my kid's SCHOOL is promoting it!!!!!
they hate me at that school, it seems....
I have met SO MANY kids who's parents let them see the movies, etc...and they are Christians.......
my kid's SCHOOL is promoting it!!!!!
they hate me at that school, it seems....
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by joyfulchild on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:55 am
Gracie2 you stay strong!This is why this forum is so good-we support
eachother throught this sort a stuff.My daughters teacher reads the
class the Chicken Soup for the Soul(Jack Canfield-part of The
Secret-wrote this )She is at an ADVENTIST school though we are NOT adventists
.I havent been able to work out a way to say I do not like this without
causing my daughter problems as she LOVES the class and I generally
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by runner4jesus on Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:29 am
Gracie2: They will hate you, when you stand for righteousness. It
reminds them of what they should not do. They hated Jesus too! Would
like to encourage you to fight the good fight of faith, and don't let
down one inch. They might think your narrow minded, but we are on the
narrow way that leads to life.
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by soulfullyHis on Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:01 pm
Farmer, this is a great post. Thanks for sharing it with us.
When Harry Potter first came to the screen, a non-Christian friend tried to get me to see it with my young grandson, but I refused. He seemed bent on me seeing it even though I told him that I thought it wasn't a movie theme (or book) that a Christian should see. Under pressure I went to see it (without child) and had my feelings confirmed...Satan's black magic for children. He said that I was over-reacting. That is the way Christians are seen a lot of the time--over-reacters. Can't we seperate a little fiction from real life? It's a child's film...what could be the harm in it?
I love all of the work all of you put into this site!
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When Harry Potter first came to the screen, a non-Christian friend tried to get me to see it with my young grandson, but I refused. He seemed bent on me seeing it even though I told him that I thought it wasn't a movie theme (or book) that a Christian should see. Under pressure I went to see it (without child) and had my feelings confirmed...Satan's black magic for children. He said that I was over-reacting. That is the way Christians are seen a lot of the time--over-reacters. Can't we seperate a little fiction from real life? It's a child's film...what could be the harm in it?
I love all of the work all of you put into this site!
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by Lookfortruth on Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:14 am
Harry potter books "hidden" meanings revealed by
author. It seems the Christians groups stifled her revealing some
hidden agenda's. Why? Because if Christians who let their kids read
these books, and knew the messages, they would have boycotted them.
Hiding these allowed some Christians to buy into her readership.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7053982.stm
Wonder what the churches who promote this would think about that?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7053982.stm
Wonder what the churches who promote this would think about that?
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by RomaLynnStar on Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:12 am Rowling told the audience that while working on the planned sixth Potter film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, she saw the script carried a reference to a girl who was once of interest to Dumbledore.
She said she ensured director David Yates was made aware of the truth about her character.
Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell welcomed the news about Dumbledore and said: "It's good that children's literature includes the reality of gay people, since we exist in every society.
"But I am disappointed that she did not make Dumbledore's sexuality explicit in the Harry Potter book. Making it obvious would have sent a much more powerful message of understanding and acceptance."
And a spokesman for gay rights group Stonewall added: "It's great that JK has said this. It shows that there's no limit to what gay and lesbian people can do, even being a wizard headmaster."
This world is so gone, and it is just another thing to make our children accept that the homosexual is normal.
I think that our Father has to send our Lord soon, you cannot even keep your children innocent hardly any more. I do not mean that they do not have to receive Jesus as savior, but I mean everything is so blatant in this world, it is so difficult to bring them up in the way of the Lord.
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by joyfulchild on Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:02 am
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by Britbloke on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:52 pm
There's a HUGE difference between Narnia and
Harry Potter, not least that CS Lewis was a Christian and his book 'Mere
Christianity' one of the best I have ever read.
HP entices young people into magic whereas Narnia presents a magical world that doesn't have the same affect at all.
personally, I loved the film and can't wait for the sequel.
HP entices young people into magic whereas Narnia presents a magical world that doesn't have the same affect at all.
personally, I loved the film and can't wait for the sequel.
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by joyfulchild on Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:05 pm Brother NARNIA was NOT perfect!There are serious issues with Narnia too-you only need to go look-its out there.- joyfulchild
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by saved2001 on Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:03 am
The Harry Potter Debate on apologeticsindex.org
This is a good site, although the article is a couple of years old it is well balanced.
This is a good site, although the article is a couple of years old it is well balanced.
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by farmer on Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:53 am
britboke and joyfulchild, I must admit I was a bit nervous
when you brought up the Narnia-subject as I had already planned to write on the new film "Prince Caspian", but had no time for it until now:
you can read it on my blog:
Who is Prince Caspian?
http://freiberg.blogspot.com/
what do you think?
farmer
when you brought up the Narnia-subject as I had already planned to write on the new film "Prince Caspian", but had no time for it until now:
you can read it on my blog:
Who is Prince Caspian?
http://freiberg.blogspot.com/
what do you think?
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by joyfulchild on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:16 pm
HEY!Bjorn-what IF-this fellow-
**Zhirinovsky** is also the most popular politican in Russioa after Putin and as I heard also one of his closest advisers-
what IF HE became the NEXT Russian president??!!
**Zhirinovsky** is also the most popular politican in Russioa after Putin and as I heard also one of his closest advisers-
what IF HE became the NEXT Russian president??!!
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by joyfulchild on Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:22 pm WELL its a shock-I must say.Well written Bjorn and well explained.- joyfulchild
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by Lookfortruth on Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:10 am
Wow! This is an interesting story, it appears
there is a Lexicon to index all the spells in HP books, and explain each
wizard. It appears there is a fan website devoted to this, and HP
creator is blocking the publishing of a book to list it in print.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_ ... er_lawsuit
Rowling sues to block Harry Potter book
By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writer Thu Nov 1, 8:19 AM ET
NEW YORK - J.K. Rowling and the maker of the "Harry Potter" films are suing a small publisher in Michigan over its plans to release a book version of a popular Web site dedicated to the boy wizard.
The suit, filed Wednesday by the author and Warner Bros. in federal court in Manhattan, claims that RDR Books will infringe on Rowling's intellectual property rights if it goes ahead with its plan to publish the 400-page "Harry Potter Lexicon" on Nov. 28.
According to the publisher, the book contains much of the same material already found on http://www.hp-lexicon.org, a fan-created collection of essays and encyclopedic material on the Harry Potter universe, including lists of spells and potions found in the books, a catalog of magical creatures, and even a "who's who in the wizarding world."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_ ... er_lawsuit
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by stevesherri on Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:52 pm
From Amazon about Richard Potter's "Authentic Spirituality". Yes .... avoid at all costs.
Book Description
In this groundbreaking book, Richard Potter, an academic and a mystic, sets forth a revolutionary thesis: to evolve personally, spiritually, and globally, we need a new concept of spirituality that is not tied to culturally specific beliefs and practices.
The idea that any one religion has a monopoly on the divine is a concept that has led to bigotry, bloodshed, and war throughout both the ancient and modern world. Recent global events have increased our awareness of the violence that can be unleashed by extremist followers of religions who claim to promote peace while waging war.
The time has come for a spirituality of consciousness. By focusing on consciousness instead of dogma, it becomes possible to realize the core truths of world religions without being bound to outdated beliefs and customs that no longer serve humanity.
Learn core consciousness-expanding practices including meditation, breathwork, sound work, and retreats. Explore ways to open your heart, achieve self mastery, evaluate spiritual teachers, and attain spiritual freedom, all steps on the path to greater contentment, clarity, compassion, and a profound sense of inner peace. Take a spiritual adventure beyond the bounds of time and place with one of today's most original spiritual thinkers.
About the Author
Professors Richard and Jan Potter (Nebraska) are married and have taught at Dana College in Nebraska for over twenty years. Former members of the Sufi Order of the West, a universalist mystical school, they are experienced as spiritual guides and have led workshops and seminars in the area of spiritual development.
Book Description
In this groundbreaking book, Richard Potter, an academic and a mystic, sets forth a revolutionary thesis: to evolve personally, spiritually, and globally, we need a new concept of spirituality that is not tied to culturally specific beliefs and practices.
The idea that any one religion has a monopoly on the divine is a concept that has led to bigotry, bloodshed, and war throughout both the ancient and modern world. Recent global events have increased our awareness of the violence that can be unleashed by extremist followers of religions who claim to promote peace while waging war.
The time has come for a spirituality of consciousness. By focusing on consciousness instead of dogma, it becomes possible to realize the core truths of world religions without being bound to outdated beliefs and customs that no longer serve humanity.
Learn core consciousness-expanding practices including meditation, breathwork, sound work, and retreats. Explore ways to open your heart, achieve self mastery, evaluate spiritual teachers, and attain spiritual freedom, all steps on the path to greater contentment, clarity, compassion, and a profound sense of inner peace. Take a spiritual adventure beyond the bounds of time and place with one of today's most original spiritual thinkers.
About the Author
Professors Richard and Jan Potter (Nebraska) are married and have taught at Dana College in Nebraska for over twenty years. Former members of the Sufi Order of the West, a universalist mystical school, they are experienced as spiritual guides and have led workshops and seminars in the area of spiritual development.
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by farmer on Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:10 pm
not sure we talk about the same Richard Potter,
but another dangerous Potter indeed. thanks!
but another dangerous Potter indeed. thanks!
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